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1 lt~~ DE LA CANNETTE,_ RTLM 029& K Eb Y.,A HITIM A Noêl & mm ide~fié : - Interview {- tes partis politiques} - Il prouve cotmnem TWAG]RAMUNGU Faustine mérite pas d être Premier ministre du Gouvernement de transition. - Cite les 11 principes du parti MRND. HAB/MANA Kamtmo: - Parle du parti CI~ et de son président du confité préfectoral de Ruhengeri monsieur SIMBIZI. SIMBIZI: - La victoire de son parti CDR et la méchanceté des Inkotanyi ainsi que son échec. F.K:FJ HAB/MANA ~ : - Invite les Inkotanyi à participer aux cérémonies des Intemtmmwe qui se tiendront au stade... H/T/MANA No~: - idem. Non/dent~é & Noê/: - Diverses informations sur les partis politiques et les politiciens rwandais ainsi que ceux du FPR. HABYARIM A Jean : - Parle politiquement du MRND.

2 IDENTIFICATION QUALITÉ : BONNE NOM DU FICHIER DA T- - E DE T~KN~Og~~-~~q : Le 16,, 11/2000 DICTAPHONE s

3 HITIMANA Noël, journaliste de la RTLM :... n/ba bariya Baminwari bakomeje bakagendana n Inkotanyi kujya gushakisha Abanyarwanda bib r ye mu gilmgu cyabo mu mahoro, abo Baminwari nihagira ugira icyo aba ntazabaze hum, kubera ko Impuzmnugambi ziravuga ngo tuil maso ariko nta muntutari masot Ijisho rya Muvoma navuze ubu ngubu ko ryah/ndutse ni ijisho rya, rubanda hum, byarahindutse. Ijisho rya rubanda niribabona rero, uzakubitwa n inkuba ntazavuge ngo inkuba ntiziri mu ijuru. Inkuba si Abajideri harya? Non identifide : Hum, ni Abajideri. HITIMANA Noël, journaliste de la RTLM : (arasetse) Non identi.f~ : Ni Abajideri. HITIMANA Noêt, joum lisre de la RTLM : Uzakubitwa n inkuba rero ibyo ni akazi ke... - Hum -... yendazahura n inkuba zitari Im tahamwe, hum, ibyo bizaba ail akazi ke[ Nababwiraga iby i Buaa~ na... mbaj~e nyine abari laui Ambamd yacu i Bujumbum nti ese ba Ambasaderi bose baraje kugira ngo babahe pole? Uu uri kuri Ambasade arambwira ati, ail "bose bose baraje", ati "kandi ha w Ulx6anyi n amahaaga yemeye ko mu minsi munani azabamaze gusaaa Ambasade yose sri mupya imeze nezari nmpya". Ati "ariko se ni... ati "Noheti uko ubibona", none se batangiye C ~ tt ~ /l/94 tr~ pm. M.B.

4 3 K S~kora? ~ "oya", mi "shwi da"l Ail.,batan8ira gukora gare kandi Abajandarume ari ho batudnze se"? Ail "non= se abafimdibakora bate ad abajandamme"? (arasetse) iby i Burundi ni ugutegereza imi,~ umunani ~ ~ ~ itatu artx~o bazadusmtim imm ma kimli kilm~.... tondo iyo tmrwa yasomye si qjye wayanditse, yarasinywe isinywa na KARAMIRA Foroduwati mi D~ MUREGO ~ barabimy,. Bandikiye ride? Nyakubahwa Porezida wa Repubul~ y u Rwanda i Kigati. Bamwandif~ $îbe ki? Tariki nmkaunya~ n indwi ~ md mirongo yenda tut gatatu. Ni ibarwa ya kïmtmik~ igi~e.., igifite ingingo zayo zose zikiri m,h~~, zikiri nzima kubera ko bmmmmtt3em. ~ byari t~ impagarara n ubu n8ubu bira yateye impa8mm~ mu gilmgu ~ose. Bmnv, qmdikiye batya ~rer~o.bsndikim Pemzida wa Pa~mbtdika, ku itar~ ya makumyabiri n indwi Ukwaidra mircmgo c3,e~a ha gatatu, ~ bamwandikiye bashakaga Imgira ngo banmsoeho ububibubu~tw~fawusit~ kx~ " ~Kmistre " w Inte~ wa Guverinoma y lnzi~o Yasuye. Hum, niyo mpmnvu. Bati "Nyakubahwa Perezida wa Repubulika, ishyaka rilmmnim demokm~ muri Rept~tika MDg, ntiryahwemye kwerekana no kwanm8ana ubudsmtya mu gush~m uw~ ad Perezida,,va MDR Bwana TWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusiti~ Ira mwanya wa MiVJStfi w Itïtebe wa Guverinoma y Inzibacyu~ Yaguye. Ntawabamsha kummx7a Ny~wa, hura Nyalmbahwa Perezida, ko uburyo bwakoreshejwê bunyuranyije n insingo ya ~ nïmwe y alltasezera~ yerekeye igabanywa ry ubutogq~tsi yemeranyijwe ha n Unmtwe wa FPR.-inkmanyi kubem ko unmkamr~ wari watanzwe n inzego z ishyaka lai mwanya wa~ w ~ wa Guv~ y Inzibacyuho Yaguye ari Bwana KAMBANDA Yohani nk ulm bymx~we ha thu eau politique Fa MDR ha C~ y igihugu y ishyaka MDR. Ishyaka MDR.rir~.Imgatagaza uruhare mwebwe ubwanyu mwa8ize mu ishyirwaho ry uwo Ministre w Intebe uu w umkorasoni, kuk0 imyifatire y uwo TWAGIKAMUNGU Fawusitini idasltobora kumulms~.. ~ra) hnyifatire y uwo TWAGIRAMt~GU Fawusifim idashobora hmmllestm i~ngo ayeborei8hm8u ya~. Mwii~ Nyakubahwa Perezida wa Repubulika, ko Inama.ya Guv~ mwari muyoim~.ubwanyu mi yo yimk~ye Bw~ TWANGIRAMUNGU... ku buyobozi tm~ STïR kube~ i~e mibi y iyo soaiyete y "ub wikorezl ]Cuberakaboko ke

5 4 /( karekare (arakomye) mu kugenda,... mu kugenda mwirukanye yibye.., mu kugenda mummmkanyi yibye imodoka ya STIR yo mu bwoko bwa AUDI ifite icyapa AB Ibyo bintu byamuviriyemo ingamka zikomeye kuko byatumye afatwa nuko agafungwa muri Gereza ya Kigali. TWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusitini ha we yageze muri prison hum! Yaje kurekurwa kubera impuhwe zanyu STIR yo yaregeye TWAGIRAMUNGU urukiko, umbanza rwanditswe mu nimero RC 12069/87, na RC 14367/89, urukiko rwemeza ko TWAG1RAMUNGU atsinzwe ko ahanishijwe gusubiza STIR imodoka no kuyishyura amafaranga miliyoni, mi/iyoni ijana na makumyabiri ha zirindwi magana atatu ibihumbi na magana atatu na kimwe n amafaranga magana abi.., mirongo itatu n arindwi yari yarihereye ku... yari yarihereye ku buntu incuti ye hum y Umunyakenya witwa Hashi Hashi Abdi. Muri rubanza rwanditswe ku nomero RC 20166/93 iyo sosiyete yashoje iramurega amafaranga ibihumbi magana inani mirongo itanu n ara.., ibihumbi magana inani mirongo itanu ha gatandatu magana abiri ha umi ha rimwe yanyereje. Sosiyete STIR imaze kandi gutsi.., imaze kandi gutsindirwa kuzishyura Bwana RUGENGA arnffaranga miliyoni mîrongo itandatu kuberamakosa TWAGIRAMUNGU yanmkoreye hum, ail Ira Buyobozi bwa STIR, iyo sosiyete kand ikaba igomba kwishyura ibirarane by imisoro bigera kuri miliyari, kuri miliyad biti.., bitishyuwe igihe TWAGIRAMUNGU yari Umuyobozi wayo, kuri ibyo birarane IYouyobozi bushya bwa STIR bumaze lc~shyura amaîamnga arenze miliyoni maganadndwi (arakoroye). Uretse izo manza harimo ha STIR, TWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusitini aravugwaho imikorere mibi n ubtriganya mu bucuruzi bigaragarira ~me cyane mu... mu buryo yacungaga Sosiyete Sosiyete ye mu bwikorezi yitwa TransconÙnem~e. Dote zimwe mu manza TWAGIRAMUNGU aregerwa amafaranga arenze miliyoni, mîeyoni ijana ha malmmyabiri. Ahah!...ka nzisome RC 1118/91 NGE urubanza SONARWA ha Transc, o~e ya TWAGIRAMUNGU, amafaraaga ni miliyon ijana ha ctm~ n imwe n ibilmmtd ndmnso itatu ha kimwe n lu~ ~ ~ ha karindwi DP- 4% magaaa ano miroago inc aa rimwe n amafaranga magaaa abiri mirongo irindwi n ioy nda, rwaciwe ira itariki ya umi na gatatu z ukwezi kwa cumi na kumwe icyeada ha rimwe. RC (arakoroye) 1256/9t NGE. Urubanza SONARWA ha Transcontinentale, amafaranga miliyoni eshesham ibilmmbi ma~anarm na mirongo inani na bine n amafaraaga ~ abiri ha mirongo

6 K irindwi n afindwidp 40/0, uu~ il ariuu [a]m-aaye ngo ha ma8ana abîri mirongo itanu n icyenda magaaa atatu ha mirongo hindwi na rinm,e, rwaciwe ku wa... tre.., ku wa gatandatu z ukwezi kwa gatatu mirongo cyen~ na kabiri. Urundi mbanza RC 1305/91 NGE urubanza SONARWA ha Trans onfinaga~ ~ RC 1172/91 NGE un~anza SONARWA ha Transcontinentale miliyoni imwe n mmîtm~ ~ ~ ha mir ng ~ m kimwe magaaa inani rm cumi n ~andam DP 4%, mirot~o in, m ~~mdatu mas~ ~ ha mirm~ itanu ha karindwi. Re ni byinshit RC 885/91 NGE umban~ I~ /MB ha Tmnsc(mtimmtale, amadolari Y ~ka ibihumbi nmk-~ n unamm~ n amadorali mir mgo ine n atanu ee n amasantimu mirongo ine, (arakoroye) ahwanye n ama~ miliyoni eshanu n ibilmmbi maganatatu na cumi na birindwi magana inani mirongo cyetula ha rimwe DP 4% RC 1358/91 NGE, urubanza TRAFIPRO, TRAFIPRO tut TWAG1RAMUNGU amafaran8a miliyoni icyenda n ibihumbi maganabiri mirongo irindwi n ~ n ~ nul$aaa tmaamne ha mirongo itatu n ine. RC!477/92 NGE, umbaaza rwa HOLF amadolari y Abanyantedka ~ magaaane ha cumi n abiri hein n am...dorali magana cyenda mirongo inani ha rimw n amasantimu ~rni n abiri ahwanye n mnafaranga y u Rwanda mim~ itanu n ebyifi n ibihumbi mirongo itatu n amafaranga nmganatanu mirongo inani ha rimwe. Anmfaranga y amabîligî ibihumbi magana inani mirongo cyenda n ane, l bflmmbi magana inani mkon8o cyenda n ane, tmgatm inani mîrongo cyenda na kaae n amafaranga mirongo inani n manu ahwanye n an~ y u Rwanda n~yoni estmm n ibihumbi.., n ibihumbi maganabiri mirongo irindwî n ane ijana ha mh ongo itatu n icyenda. Urubanza rwa munani Re 1413/92 NGE, umbanza rwa SORAS ha Transcontinem~e, amafaranga milîyonî igi~mbi nmgmm ~yenda mirongo irindwi ha karindwi ~ atindwi mirongo liane n icyenda. Urubanza rwa cyenda RC igihu... RC 1413/92 NC~, mubanza Banke ya Kigal/ha Transcontinentale ya TWAGIRAMUNGU, amafàranga miliyoni imwe ibitmmbi ~ana ha mirongo in, n icyenda n amffaranga ijana na mirongo inani n tmamani. Umbanza rwa tm-ë: RC 1363/91 NGE, uru[mnza GASANA Oscar ha Transcontinentale, amadolari y anmayamerika ~ ~ itanu ahwanye ha ~ esheshatu n ~ihmnbi masmm atatu by amafaranga y u Rwanda. Urubanza rwa cumi ha Ç~le) Erestine FOYT ha TWAGtRAMI3NGU, amafatan~ miliyoni cumi n ebyiri n ibihumbi maganabiri mirongo ine ha fimwe n amafltrm~ masmm arindwi mirongo inani n abiri. Umbanza rwa cumî na kabiri RC, RCA, Cauate RTt.M e29yl~lj94 ~t,ar M.B..

7 I( RCA 1109ït0/Kigati ku mbanza rwa ~ ee NKIKABAHIZI ha TWACdRAMUNC~, isima ya STIR TWA~GU, 1~ oe yt~eki~~.ye ku mafaranga y iyo situa ibihumbi masana cyenda rut ctm n atoem hum ~ ma8a~ cyenda, neuf cent quinze mille, ~ilmmbi masana cyenda n atanu, glu mbanza rwa cumiaa 8atatu RC IGgati ubushinjacyaha buresa SINAYIGAYE Smrme{ ~ ~ TWA~. Hatsinzwe ~aoyej ta ha TWAOI{~J{.MUNC.,-U kuri m, {iyo,,{ es{,es{,at~ ~t:na nonekandi uwo 33,VAG~GU Favmsittni wagabiwe kuba w tmebe (erakoroyë)ar~hy~,wa ha Bwam RUBASHA Helimenejiride amafaranga mi~oni esheshatu, urubanza rukaba ruri mu. Rwa mbere rw iremezo rwa IGgalî, harimo miliyoni nyinshi z imisoro. Ic~iro rye Multi-Serviees kubera 8uhomba ku wà ~ ha kar/ndw/ukwak/ra mirongo cyenda ha 8atatu hategetswe ko ryatezwa cymnunara. Icy~ora abakozi b iryo capiro banze ko ryagurishwa isihe cyose bazaba ha... bamrislvurwa ibimmae by imishehara yabo y ameai am~. Pharmacie ya TWAG1RAMLrNGU yitwa PHARCHIMIE imerewe nabi ha duwanî y i Gikondo kubea ko tm~mffia ~ ya duwmi bitavuga amazim nyakuri y imiti, itavuga amazina nyakuri y imiti ~ mu mehan~ Banke ya Kigali imaze k umwimlma mu mazu yayo kubem kutishyura amat~auga y ubukode bw ayo Smiyete Tmmmutinem~ ha Phammcie byak mae8a. AI~.. aa ubu amma refo beakora ~. Nguwo Nyakubehwa Perezida, utma~ mwahinmo nso arensere iki gihugu. Ntitwaoeceka abo babivu~ ni KAgAMtgA Foro hnvafi tut ~ gkautti Docteur MUgF_,GO Donati, bati "mitwa~ceka kandi ko ~ wa Nyakw/sendera GAPYISI ~ ndetse n abandi bantu bemhi bakeka TWA~ F~ ~ ym aou~ umugambi wo kwidslm musan,m~ we aho ubwo... (arasetse) aho ubwo impamvu.., humi Aho ubwo impamvu mushyi8ikira TWAGIRAMUNGU si uko mwàba nmshaka 8usisi1~mya anketi zerekeye urwo mpfu? Hum? Nyaimbahwa Pefezi~ du~ye ku ngingo tumaze lmgaragaza ntidushidikanya ha busa ko TWAG~AMUNGU Fawusti... ee Fawus~ini adakwiriye lmyobora Guverinoma izaba ishinzwe kuza~.., kuzenzam~a, ~ura ubukungu bw igihugu, gutera inkunga inganda nto n izic, isi... n iz/cififitse no gushimm~~ ko u Rwanda rwaba isflmgu cyubahir~ amute.., an~egeko. cm~a~ RT/,M#~3 t~.

8 {... : _ -...._.....,,,,, K Twe ~ rwo~.nyakubahw~ P.er=ida, uko gushyigik~ umuntuda~e ubwi3mb~ nk uriya hum big... ~«y~.bihishuye? Bishye cyangwa bihyuhe? Bihishuye ~. Si vve se..,.. wab~.hum ko mwasahuye ~ mu~te~k:esha ubwicanyi? lbm wa mwandikiwe n Umuseaat~ w U~ Witwa.W_.l.!ty KYPERS na yo irabibashinja. Ntidu~Obora kwemera ko kumba.inyaosm~~~o mi I~~/o, ~ ~ ~ Ch~. ve«inoma y lm~ b~ Yaguye, Ni yo mpamvu duubye kubahi~~.m=m.==tno ya Arusha mubuubiza ~ ubu~ bwayo. B~ P~ w U~ nnimia ee kandi ~ buriya nu... ~ Ite~~konshin~ rya...sinywe mi ~ F~ P~a wa ~ ris Docteur ~GO Donst, u~~wa~ ï, ~M...ui~~:~ ~..su,: ~,.sri v~, ~ y~ " ": "~ : " " " ;~""~: " "" 111.~m!/~~~~: ~s... " ~ ~ ~;"~~~~[llko" " ~ bal ~ ~ ~l~.,~..:. :;.~:,; :~,:.::..",:-, ;.. :.,...../...,.. r., " mm ~.«..~~~ ~ws, == u«--,~o,------,m~- Nilm rem tmsha rero nso,..,.....» :...~,,~:::. ï. :,.. ;.:;...s..,.. :. = -,, hîu.~~ ~:~~~~~,~ cy=sm bmbe ukum bat=ho,......:.~:=.... :.,..,;~... :.,-... :,.;",~~,..... : "~r,~ll:l~ ~P& ~~1~...r...

9 8 K Yee, ubwo rero is~ MDR riracyand/ka none~o n~ïte ibyas/nywe ha Docteur NSENG/YAREMYE D/sa~, Visi Perezida wa mbem, n ibyas/nywe ha KARAMIRA Froduald, Visipere~a wa kabiri, ha Ducteta, MURE~ D0nat, Unamyamabanga nadmru. Hee barandikat Barandika bail "ishyaka MDR ribaba~ cyane no Imbona ko ishyirwaho ry inzego y In~~acyuho yasuye rikun~ ~ ma... mu m~... mu naiam~ n ubwo ImiryanSo mpuzamahansa amashyaka ya po//t/ke n abanyamad/n/ho mu gilmgu cyacu ma cyo batakoee lmgirago uburenganzira n ukuri byoye gukomeza gupfukiranwa no kugira ngo haboneke uburyo bwurnvika.., bwumvikanweho n amashyaka MDR ha IL, hum? Maze amakimbirane a...gaherera uruhande rumwe". bhyaka MDR, kubera yuko ri~we n uko amasezerano y amahoro ya Arusha yashyirwa mu bikorwa, n uko i~ yava mu mfutanwe y ikibazo by insobe, y ibîbazo by insobe bya politike cyahezemo, iramenyeslm abaturarwanda n Imiryango mpuzamahanga ibi bikurikira - lshyaka MDR. r/sh/mishijwe n uko/nama ish/nzwe anmhoro ku isi ya Lon/, ishingi~ ku cyemezo cya magana inani ha m/rongo c yenda ha gatatu yemeye 8ukomeza ~ inkunga uburyo bwo gushyira mu hikorwa mrmsezerano y amahoro ya Arusha. Nyamara iyo nkunga n ubwo yemewe bwose îzagirakammv ah trko impande zombi zasiaye ~o y amahoro ya Arusha ziyemeje kuyubahiriza. Ni yo ~vu ishyaka MDR rikomeje gusaba yuko uburengaazira bwaryo rihabwa n ayu ma... n ayo masezerano oyaae cyane ~eranye no kujya muri Guverinoma y Inziba yuho Ya8uye no mu Ntelm ~ amategeko Itwakubahirizwa. - Ishyaka MDR rishimi~we kandi n uko komite y abanyamadïni ikomeje gukora ibishoboka byose kugira ngo hab a~e inz/ra yo gukenawa amaldmbiraae ad hagati ya TWAG/RAMUNGU Fawusitini n ishya~ MDR. - lshyaka MDR rirasanga ku byerekeye ubx~o bwaianzwe n iyo komite y sbanmaya... y abanyamad~ ari htzira nziza yazuma inzego zos z Inziba yuho yagu~ zishyirwaho vuba, akaba ad ha yo mpamvu i~ MDR, risaba Ministre w lntebe ya Canterinoma Y Lqzibacyuho yagtrye gushyira mu gadro ~ inama agirwa n abo b~. m, i tshyaka MDR ~ byimazeyo ama~ n ubufigaaya. bwa TWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusitini ukomeje kubeshya abaata ngo nta kibazo afitanye n ishyaka MDR, ari ulmgira ngo abone uko ~ R~W o.tp31~/ t,,~ ~m~tae p,= st.s..

10 9 K yilm eremtto iayuasu z ishyaka tre girl ~e bwîte, - hhyaka MDR ~ komite y abanyamadini kumvisha uwo TWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusitiai ko ibyo yihaye byo kaaaa8ir a itl ntas~ n ishyaka MDR n imyifatire ye idahwitse yo kwit amatwi ~ inam agirwa ku$îm nso iazitane zsbibazo bya palitike zi8obototwe, bidashobora ha gato Rutuma inzego z Inzi~ zishyi.., zi~rwaho, bîtyo rero Mkaba bigaragara ko ad we TWAGIRAMUNC~ ari we udindiza akaaa inzira, irmira y amahoro. - Ishyaka MDR ribabajwe cym,,e n uko imibonano yahuje Perezida wa Repubulika n abahagatadye FPR4nkotanyi lin itan~ ya munaai Mumanm ~ cyenda ha kane ma cyo yagezeho ldgaragara, - Ishyaka MDR rirasaaga ko inzifizi ~ ziterwahanini na TWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusitini ukomeje kunaagira nta...ṡhyi,., ntashyikirane n ishyaka rye MDR kandi ntiyumve inamagirwa n ~. N ~ rero TWA~Oe Fawusitini akomeje kwim amatwinama z imishyikirano n amashyaka nk uko amasezerano y amahoro abiteganya kugira ngo abone uko ashyiraho Y Inziba~Tu~ Ya8uye (arakoroye) bimmvlkana ko ahasigaye hum, ari ukuba~ uhura ahasisaye ni uko TWAGtRAMUNGU aha.., aho asigaje ad ukubagakifasha byamunaaira akaba armiwe ayine no Se~ iyo Ouverin~~ [sic] akabe ad ha we tmbibazwa. - Ishyaka MDR ritewe impmse~ no kudotx~ bèutbije mu rwego rwo oo kubumbatira umutekano w abaturage ubitewe no oo haki.., no guhakidzwa no kunaairwa bya Madaum UWINGIRIMANA Agata uyobota Guverinoma i yuye igihe. - Nk aka ishyaka MDR ritahwemye kubigarasaza, rikome]e kwamagana ibikorwa by urugomo aho byaba bikomoka hase, akab ad ha yo mpamvu ishyaka MDR risabye rikomeje Gtr«erinoma ya Madamu UWINGIYIMANA Agata n Intumwa za Loni ziri mu Rwanda gukora ibishoboka byose ku8ita ngo birinde ~ w abantu n ibintu byabo. - Ishyaka MDRmu kwanan, ~ iagorane zose is~su kidn~ iki gh~,e n~a handi ~~ ufetse lai myifatire ya IWAGIRAMUNE~ Fawtmitini wagaragaje ubushobazi buke bwo gushyira~ Guverinoma y Inziba yu~ yasuye bitewe n uko a8amijee 8uhuguza uburenganzi~ amashyaka MDR aa PL ahabwa n ~mezefana y ~ y Amshagashaka kubwikubira la, giti ye nyamara ko ayo mashyeh yombi ~e ~ rukomeye mu i, hyi~aho ry inzego z Ir, zibacyuho. "~Y~ ~ ryita~e~a y ~ango iri mu gihusu yose yi... iii mu gihusu cyo~

11 l0 K n Imirym~ mpuzamehansa igera8eza gus~a Perezida wa Repubutika, Ministre w Intebe w ~ Yaguye, anmsbyakzya politike ha FPR-Inkotanyi, 8ushyira mu gaciro bakagira vuba ba8aicura iki gihugu mu kansaratete kuko bitagenze bityo ara kibuzamasezerano y amahoro ntiy~ intamtrara ~. Byakorewe i Ki8a[i, tafiki ya umi n imwe z ukwezi kwa Mutarama muri ndmnso cyeista rm kane. Komite nyobozi y i~ MDR, hasinye Docteur NSENGIYAREMYE Dismas, "v~-peredda,,va mbere, lmsinya KARAMIRA Froduald., Visi-perezida,,va kabifi, hssinye ~ M(.H1EC~ Donat, Umunymnaban8a nmkum. N~ mwumva Radiyo y-anyu Itadiyo RTLM, ma handi nab~ ukuri ~ hanze ni uko abahabaye bembabaye rwose nta feinte byagenda ~ (arasetse) ngo Z ~abasabo, Zirimwabagabo nyine! saa tanu isigaje ~ icy=~ tumoi I<isa~.... ho muri ~ babwira Perezida wa Repubulika bakabwira n abamra8e bose bail "tubabajwe n ukuntu uri~ ~ nmzamugira Premier ministre kandi afite.., afite ibibazo ha we yifitiye ~"! ~ uwanmn~ akamanza yavura yavura ~ bazo afite akamanza yabyikuramo wenda akaza.., akazajya ku kazi afite umutima nmzi~ ari umuntu nyine, hari umuntu wambwiye ati Burusumestre w umukene ntasates~e Komine kuko nta kuntu waba mnukum w umuryango ad wowe utcenny~ mud uwo nmryango, ntibishoboka, ntibishobokat Niba rero ufi tmmkuru mu bibazo ntabwo wate.., wa~.. wakemura ibindi tfibazo, ~ ugakemura iby iwawe ibindi ukazajya ku... gukenmra i~ i~ nyuma: Niba hariho abafite ~ zirenze cumi n eshatu, niba bavuga bati rwose areshaka gu~ ulmtegetsi, ih (arimyoje) shnbîzi niba twari dufite amahirwe yo ku8ira mmm~ nk uwo ~ anmhyi kandi tutu 1o3 bo banmvum& Iyo umuntu bamuvuma barenze mirongo ingahe rëro sinzi uwamukomera amashyi! None se azaba Premier ministre tudakomera amashyi? Ni ikibazo gikomeye. Azaba Premier ministre badak~a amashyi? Namwe mubyîbaze! nîba hum TWA~ niba ~ Premier ministre bmnwita bati Rukokoma abanm bose bamureba bakareba hirya. (Ixmuch ble) ku gahato ku mirya ntiyabishobora, ntiyabishobora ahat~ batan~eba! Azatakira nde se? Ese ubwo Coseil du 8ouvernmnent azayijyamo ate, ha ha ride? Hein bm iya ni icyaha (~) byashoboka bite? Simbizi~ Azajye~ wa mugani

12 11 [( we ati "ee ~ ~ yo ~", sze... Lzeme n8o m~oyan8azessmshsa! Hein, ~esame. H~~--/MANA ~am~u,: Aa! Birak~ cyane muri iyi mias ishyaka CDR ryatangiye gushyira (iaa~bte)...komin no mu maperef~ ni aa byo biterabwoba Inkotanyi aho zibereye zivuga ziti hein abasederi bari~ baimwo b~a hamwe ngo noneho nidusoka hano muri CND baduteme, nuko ugasanga bafit ubwoba ndakeka ko ail.., atari yo mpamvu, ni uko CDR ail ishyaka ryigenga kandi ce ri~ ~ bwo gu... Su... ~ko... gukora inzi.,, inz go zaryo dkaz~yira mu buryo kuko u~ ~ no~ hagiyo.., i~ potine noneho ko~ ~i~ y gusohant~. Hanyuma mu gutamgeri rero inkuru imgezeho ni uko ubu Bwana SIM IZI yabaye Perezida we... wa Komite ya Pr~eomre ya Ruhenge i ya CDR. Yoe Bwana SIMBIZI rero turi hano hmnw, hanyuma.., yaye,,. ~~I: Ee urakozé Bwana Kantano, adko nagiraga ngo mbere yo kugusubiza manze nkosore gatoya, ee uravuze mi ~mmayi ziftte ubw0ba ngo CDR ëhunganya izaziteme", nagira ngo aho ziri zishyitse umuthna nda, CDR niigtnjaka rid~_~,~na ni ishyaka rya potitike rizakina politique iyi y abanm bazima ee ma muma mzahehotëra, ha yo rero ireke kw~m8a ize neza ikine politike tut CDg maze mzar~ ;,-~,d-da undi ad uko anejëje abatura8e, l~î~a rero ngo nk umeny~e ko nyine i...shyaka CDR ryakozee Inteim ~_m,~.~ yawo isanzwee mari P~ ya Ruhengerikaba nyine yantoreye hryobora iryo shyaka mari Perefe8itura ya Ruhengeri, ee muri iyo Nteko ee abarwaaashyska-basiz~ koagreee ~ bafas~ ~ee bi 61~~ ko byagera ku Banyarwanda boseee kandi ~ no kubuyob~ bukaa~ bw ish~ rya rubanda nyamwinshi. Muri (inaudible) rero hakaba lmrimo ko yas~ye ko nko lin ~ ya nmnani Gashyantare buri mwaka hajya hizilgzwa ee uwo munsi wajya wizihizwa twibulm inzirakarengane zazize ubugome bwa FPR mu Ruhengefi ce no.newi Byumba urabizi ko zahaje zikica abantu benshi none abo bantu bakaba basa n abagîye kwibagim~ twasabye rero ko igihugu cyose cyajya cyizihiza uwo munsi ee muri..,

13 Rwanda hose. Ndetse twasabye ko ee hazashyirwaho ikimenyetso mu mujyi wa Ruhengeri twibuka abana b isihugu ee bahatikiriye, lkindi cy insenzi abm wanashyaka ha CDR mu Ruhengeri basabye, ni uko oo umutekano wakubatfifizwa mu gihugu cyose cyane cyane mu karere katarangwamo ibikorwa bya gisifikare. Ni mu urwo rwe8o rer oo abagize kongre basabye ko ingabo za FPR zavanwa bidatinze mu... muri ako karere kuko ubundi aa basanze ad ukubeshya FPR itarigeze ihava. Nuko bongera gusaba kandi ko ee ku buryo bwihutirwa ee ibyo kuvana ingabo mu karere kagifitwe va FPR ariko nka Butaro, ziriya za Kivuye byakwihutishwa vuba kugira ngo ababivanywemo ha... abavanywe mu byabo n imambm a nabo bashobore kubisubiramo kandi hajyeho ubutegetsi buhamye bubumbiye b.mmve ee rnurî Perefegitura yc~e ya Ruhengefi no muri Perefegitura yose ya Byumba. Ndetse abagize congrès bongeye kwiyanm FPR, abasirikare FPR bajya gushinyagurira abaturage barî muri za bulende bababwira ko sri FP... ad CDR ida.., ituma badasubira mu byabo ndetse bakavusa ngo ko ee nlbak~a kuba abasederi n8o bazamererwa nabi. Aho ngaho twiyarnye rero FPR uyu nnmsi twizeye kandi ko ibyualva kandi.., ko izab~bahiriza. Ikindi twasabye ni uko ~ îbyemezo byihutirwa kusira ngo ~hanyo z abavanywe mu byabo n intambara zongerwe kandi zit~ ku b~ ce bufututse. Iyo... twongeye gusaba kandi ko ce Gu~ y Inzi~o Yaguye iz~aho mu... te8anyamisa (interruption) bagashyira imbere ingan~ (inu~ upt~) gu ata Perefegîtura ya ~eri ha Byumba k ~ic~ byazahajwê n intambara bi~ ikazi,esanyiriza (int~n) yihariye yo gusana ibyasenywe byose n in~ no kuzahura ubukungu n imiberëho myiza y abatura8e nibura mu gihe ~V ~ itanu. Ikindi cy ingenzi twasabye ee ni uko ee imidmo yita lin miber ho myiza y abaturage, ubukxmgu yakongem 8u...~ cyane cymte nk ibyerek=mxye ee n ibitaro, ~yerekeranye nu... n amashuri ha za Centres z utx=nm~ amabanke, amaposim ibyo byose twiîde ko byakorwa.., byakora vuba kugin nsv ~bwongere tms=n~. Ni uko ishyaka (interruption) (Inaudible) mashyaka ariko ha n ubu iryo shyaka (interruption)... shyireho unmkor~ maze ha ryo rfjye mu Nteko ishinga amategeko ndetse rihatanire wa mwa~a wa.. w U~a w iyo Nteko. - lsmaka CDR rero ryasab~.aa akarere.l~ Ruhengefi ryasat~ kg Mmisteri y Ububanyi n amahaaga, Gtw~ RrLM ~ 14///94:.e,amt, r~pu M.B.

14 ]3 K ee ndetse na Perezida w Umkiko oo rugen8a yee rurînda inte... Itegeko nshinga KAVARUGANDA, bakora ibishoboka byose bakareka amacenga yabo yo kubuza CDR gusinya kuko ibyo bakora (inaudible) ibyifuzo bya FPR idashaka ko abahanganye na yo ibafimgira ingufu mu... mu Nteko isldn8a amategeko. Ubwo rero twasabye dukomeje abo bantu bashaka gushyiramo amacenga ad uburyo bwo kutubahiriza amase.., amasezerano ya Arusha kandi ad bo basezeranye ko ee bazaktu0dza amategeko, ubwo rero nibatange um8ero ~ amategeko niba batabyemeye kandi bi~e ko bishe ~o ya Amsba noneho ee byerekane ko ee batashakaga.., batayashakaga badashaka n amahoro. - Ikindi twasabye ee twishimiye nako ni uko rubanda nyamwinshi itangiye kuba maso koko bikagaragara, akabad ha yo mpamvu ee twasabye Abanyarwanda bose baharanira Repubulika na demokrasi 8ukomeza kurushaho gufatanya ee kandi mkanabigaragaza. - lkindi twasabye ee twifuje nako ni uko oo ibikorwa bigayitse bya FPR n ibyitso byabyo bigamije gushiman8ira akadumvayo mu gihugu kugira ngo bazabone uko bafata ubute8etsi ku ngufu byahagarara. Ni yo mpamvu twasabye ee FPR kutongera kwivanga ndetse no mu mikorere ee ya MINUAR ivuga ngo abo mu 8ihugu il iki n iki nibagende kandi mu by ukuri twe twaranze... twara8aragaje ko had abo tutizeye ariko bakanga bakaza kuko bavugaga bati ni abasirikad Loni ntabwo bazabad abasirikare b iki gihugu. Ubwo rero na KANYARENGWE oe niyihangane ye kongera kwivanga ee amenye ko ee uko byabaye ku Babiligi n abandi bose baje gufasha u Rwanda bagomba kuza ad aba ONU ye kongera kwivanga. - Ikindi twasabye ha none ni uko oo twashyigildye ce ishyirwaho vuba ry Inzego z Inzibacyuho zaguyee kugira ngo igihugu ldve muri aka kajagad. Ibyo bigakorwa hakurikijwe amasezerano ya n ibyemezo ee bîtanzwe ee n Ubuyobozi bwemewe n amategeko y amashyaka. Muri rusange rero muri make ni ibyo abarwanashyaka bagize kongre ya CDR mu Ruhengeri bagezeho ee bakaba bifuje ko n Abanyarwanda bose babimenya (interruption) Fin de la face A. Cassette RTLM /1/94 transcrtte par M.B.

15 ! 14 Kûl HAB/MANA Kasauo: lbi ndake yuko FPR irabyumvise n Abanyarwanda kandi bose abenshi barabyumvise kandi bumvise yuko mu by uk~ ndumva mwageze ku bintu bya ngombwa kandi byari bibabaje. Twumve umuziki mbere y uko mbagezaho an& mahau kuko dufite amakuru menshi menshi menshi cyane uyu mugoroba. (Musique) Ubwo mwese mwese n Inkotanyi zirimo haayama Inkotanyi namwe muzaze koko muhagarare mur bv ukuntu Inter~amwe ziha a mu mucyo mwumve n amagambo zivuga mwe lmjya mu... mu... ibiatu hanyuna noneho amsobanakirwe ~yo ail byo byose ha za me tings z Inkotanyi ubu ngulm ~ baflt amatsiko yo kumenya aho izataagirira bwa mbere, aho bazayikoresha bwa mb re hazaba hari aban~o m nshi, n Inkotanyi kandi ubu zifite amatsiko menshi cyane yo kumenya uko I...~wt zikoresha meeting maze.., amzafate ikamyoneti imwe cyangwa ~ yenda na aze,, hanyua~ ndakeka yuko ni bwo buryo bwo kumva ukuri burya iyo umuntu yikingiranye mu kinm akaba yiyumvira iby gusa ntamenya uko ibindi bim z, Itanyuam mwumve niba koko hec y amagambo ~ koko maze ~ve niba mwayishobora, lldbazo r ro (int~,ruption)... ngo Abaa~ ni îbictam ago bavuzv ko ~yi ziî~e imirizo ah b, ad ifoto nziza ya jyamb re iri inymna y icyo kinyamalawa. Maz roeo Sun City hotel, Sun City Hotet yo kuri Moi gigag boîte yayo Apolo irameayosha abantu b Iatemhamwc za Segiteri C3rahati ko ya firimbi ya nyuma bari bamaze m bafifia~ ba,yitxa~ koko, ho... babon y ho rero kummyesha S gît ri Cyahati ko îkipe ya Segited Gitegatad ildpe ~ Imboneka lin Imryo ubonets wese yapfa lmyikinisha kuko uretse ha Segitefi, ha za Clubs washobora guhangana ni... (interruption) nejeje ngo barashaka amafaranga, amafaranga y ild gihehee ntabwo yoroshye (inten-uption). (silence). HITIMANA Noêl :... bagenzi bacu bamwe babise abavandimwe abandi bakavuga bati ese abavandlmwe uwagukoze mu

16 15 Koq nda yaba umuvandimwe bite7 Ariko rem ati mubabwire baze baturebe, baze baturebe kuri Stade Régional i Nyamirarnbo bail rwose babarehtre mbese babahe uruhusa babahe n imodoka baze bamrebe twebwe Interahamwe, twebw abiyemeje gukorera iki gïhugu, abiyemeje.., kukirwanira abiyen~e uu hein (arasetse) yee ubu za bisi zirimo zirabajyana lmri Stade afiko kandi ndakora uko nshoboye.., turakora uko dushoboye ni... umutekenisiye mil kumwe ni... NTEZIMANA, turakora uko dmhoboye lmgka n8v byose byose byose biba8ereho kugeza igihe meeting tri buze kurangirîra. Mwese mwse rero reka tuban~ dukonmze dusenge kugi~ ngo byose bigende neza reka mmanze dusenge...reho umririmbo tw Imana. Nos/de.~é:... un~~kano muken ~ ~ m nm silmgu n ibindi. Umnana "La oerdéc" mrasaba ko: - Icya mbere Imiryango idaharanira inyungu n Abihayimana bakwishyira hamwe bakumvisha ko ubwumvflmne ad cyo cyonyine cyatmna demokrasi igerwaho mu gihugu. - Icya kabiri : Amacalmbiri arangwa mu mashyaka agomba Imbonerwa umuti mu bwumvikane nta gushaka guheza bamwe kand ibyo bigakorwa nta wivanze mu mikorere y andi mash~. - I ya gatatu : Urunana ~t corcée" rurasaba amashyaka MDR ha PL kurengamac, a~bifi ayarangwamo maze bagafasha igihugu kuva ~ aka kaga turimo. - Icya kane : Unmana"La cordée"mrasifinfira ibihugu by înshuti n Imiryango mpuzamahanga kubera tnkunsa bit~mnye kuduterahtgka ngo ~ cyacu kigere la, rnahoro nyakud no ku bwumvikane (Inaudible). Bîkorewe i Ki8ali, ku ya umi na gatanu Mutarama mirongo cyenda ha kane. (Silence). H/T/MANA Naë~:... rwose nababwiraga ko ail kaw~j~. Uyu munsi mukuru tugerageze lmbagezaho uko biribuze lm~agla byv~ byo#e byose ma ko ntari kubi8enza. Ndi i Nyamirambo ndi mm~ Stidiyo ariko byose nkabikora lmgira ngo turebe. Nyuze mu mayira yose harya za Kimisagara mvuye za Cfikondo _rmrn~~m:ts h pfo Nyabugogo, abantubmacyagenda ari benshi, baracyagenda ail benshi ahaa! Hari abantu bavuga bail byose bizarangirira mu matora nyamara heinta tora riruta iri ngiri md kubona uyu namsi, ma tora rirkt~ abashaka bajye bareba bihi.., bihere ijisho bamenye aho ba... baboga~ye ~~ RrLU 0~J 1~ ~ pw s~~

17 16 I( bamenye n a ho bad bamenye n uko ibintu bimeze. U ko bimeze ni abaturage babîtegeka kandi had umuturage umaze kumbwira ad "nohe"? Nti il? Ail "tuzemmera trie" ati "kandi n uwo dushaka ~" ad "bibaye nsombwa tuzapfe n abapfuye bad abantu". Ubu rem kuri Stade abantu... Stade irimo itan8iye itangiye kuzura, ubu ndongera nsimbuke nyureyo no~o ndebe ko nabona programu y uyu munsi yose ukuntu bad buze gukurikiranya amagambo noneho nyiba8ezeho mu kanya. Ar~o kandi naxzika nabonye NTEZt~A ha we yabyitabhiye, yabyitabin ye rwose umuzika ni sawa muwumve ni ku-cyumwefu abagiye gusensa abàvuye gusenga abadusabîm nmdusabire twese, hum baravuze ngo tuzasane imitima wenda duhane n imbabazî iii Dusabane ku Mana, dusabe ku Mana ko yababarira iki gùmgu akasa u.tfimo tu~avan~ kuko aka8a ko turacyakarimo. - Abandi ikaba.., bakavuga bati "Interahmnwe alma"! Bati "had igihe ziba ziri kumwe n abaseded" haa! Bati reka.., oya da! Uyu munsi Interahamwe simvuze ngo ni uyu munsi n ubu~e Intemlmmwe ni abantu bitonze cyane, abo bantu bavuga ngo ni n abasederi bajyana nabo ha... bishe ride bakubise nde bagize bate? Bameze neza bishimye usanga ha MINUAR,/vflNUAR kuri Stade irahad ariko si MINUAR ni uko insetsa! Jye mbonye abaminwad mbonye aba ofisiye nababaze mbonye banc gusa, Nîba rem bane gusad Ix) ba MINUAR ubanza nabo baje k~rebera ibirori naho umutekano wo ha nyirawo barawurinda! Hein ha I~flNUAR ne... narabare...bye ntî si aba ni bo bazadnda iki.., iyi kapitali? Sinzi abo.., abo baminwad niba b~da kapitali bihagaradra ad bane agatsiko kamwe ngo barinze Stade nzima uretse ko Abanyarwanda turiyizi, abadnze Stade barahad. Abarinze izi kafitsiye zose za Kigali baraha.ri uyu munsi rero ni amahoro nta kîntera ubwoba rwose ndabizi neza nzi ko uyu munsi mi amahoro. (Musique). Ngaruke ~wire uko bimeze kusira ngo turebe ukuntuyu munsi umeze. Bimeze bite se? Ahaa! Abari I(igali ho bari kubiborm bamwe batagiye no kuri Stade barabona za Erikobuteri zigenda, Erikobuteri ya bflnuar ifimwo iragenda, Erîkobutefi ya Perezida wa Repubulika ha yo ifimo. Casz~te R1ZM ~29:~ 14fl/~ tmmer~ par MB.

18 17 I( ? iratembe~ nibad Pew.zkia urimo njye sinarebye neza ngo ndebe neza nibad we urimo ibyo ad byo byose Efikobut fi ya Prezidanse nayo idmo iragenda barazenguruka bareba abantu Stade pe iruzuye! Iruzuye imzuye. Interahamwe abatarazibonye bajye kuzireba Interahamwe zirahari koko! Zirahad gisirikare ce heint (Atasetse) Bakadogo rero ubanza ha bo bagiye kuri Stade ngo barebe abandi Kadogo babo hum bareba nabi babonana ha ho hein babonana ha ho ee kubera ko ba Kadogo bo... ho muri FPR zkiya Nkotanyi ho baflte umhushya rwo kugendana imbunda da! Ariko abandi ba Kadogo hum ba... b Int~we wenda 17o bafite ya mishumi yabo ba8enda bambaye nabonye bambaye imî~ ariko bafite n ingufu baffe n imbaraga bafite n amaboko sinzi ukuntu bya8enda bl~tye impu? Ntabwo biraba isupuyu munsi kufi Stade kuko nababwiye ko amahoro ari yose, ariko rero abanm ~ bibwira bail ee robe mwa hein! NU... robe mwa! Ahaa ri robe mwa! Nk uko nyine KANY~ y~vuzv ail" nmri iki ~ ail hari abanm barimo babura bitoje", yavu~ igruanbi ha magmarindwi ahari jye simbazi sindababona simbazi rwose, simbazî abo bantu bavuga ngo bafitoje ~ îmbazi. Ariko kandi kwitoza ni iki se? Iyo umuntu abyutse ntiyinanura? Iyo whtanuye rem ulammam~ amsboko ul~ ~~tyoe.. ukayagira guwa... Imrya uba ~ye akagufu nabwo ukaba witoje. None se ulazito~ ni inde? Muri iki ~ rem ibihe bit~ong~; ib~ birakomeye ariko kandi kuri Stade uko nsanga bimeze bimeze nez.a, pro~~u~-miebafite kuri Stade nk uko nyizanye lmgira ngo nyibagea~o ubundi birategaayijwe ko i sa tatu t~i kwakifa abasl~si ariko njye mvuyeyo saa ine n igice ni ho mpageze mu kanya saainë n igice ni ho bail baïnaze kwakira abaslvfitsi, abashyitsî bamwe ndabababwira ndi kubona.., njye nafashe ka note ~wira unanva rem kv hagombye kuba indirimbo yubahiriza i~ tïym~ ~ ~ rwose ni ngombwa ma birori nka biri~ bagatangira rero berekana abathyi~, ngiye kubabwi~ nyuma yaho njye nsinze mu kanya nsize Yohani HABYARIMANA, l~eàda wa ~ mu m~ wa ~ ad we uf~ ~anbo nyine amaze kwakira abo bashyitsi amazë no ~ ad we uri kubabwira uko bimeze ma kanya rwose Mabagezaho icyo yavuze oyose. Ndàmze Imbibagezaho ariko ngu han buze gukuvîkiraho ijambo ry Unm... nyamabanga mukum wï MRND a0net~ ludmdkireho inëkîno, ttorero Irîndiro n byine nymna yaho henyuzwe.., bakubite~ ïjambo rya Visi,perezida wa mbere ha we avuge haki.., bakubiteho unmkino

19 w urubyimko rwo mu Biryogo, ijambo ry Umuministri ukomoka muri MRND na we bateganije nabwo arahari ministre bose harahari ba MRND ha ho nyine bavuge ijambo, hakurikireho umukino w Interahamwe z i Cfikondo, ijambo rya Perezida wa MRND na ryo rikurîkireho, hum ijambo rya Perezida wa MRND rikufildreho umukino rero Itorero indîrimbo ube noneho aa mbese urebye mbese urebye ni wo urasoza, Umugambi ni umwe Banyarwanda muzi ko ari indirimbo yabo yabo rwose ntibazayitezukaho Umugambi ni umwe Banyarwanda ni yo ndirimbo iribuze gusoza biriya birori bir/ kuri Stade Régional i Nyamirambo. Uko nabibonye rero saa yine n igice ni ho byatangiye neza neza, berekana abashyitsi babanje kwerekana Perezida wabo Perezida wa MRND Matayo NGIRUMPATSE baramwerekana, berekana KAREMERA, Premier vice-président, Perezida wa mbere wo... w isbyaka MRND, KABAGEMA Feredinan~ Perezida wa kabiri Deuxième v/ce-président, deuxième vice-président.., v/ce-président w ishyaka MRND baramwerekana, berekana NZIRORERA Joseph, Secrétaire général wa MRND hum! Ariko rero i Nyamir~ birashyushye ku~ ko hageze aho ngaho bakavuga bati yemwe! Bati erega ubu dufite abashyitsl n~ bakomeye bail maze ha... namanuke aze hano mu kibuga murebe Perezida wa PL. Bail nam~ Perezida wa PL MUGENZI Yusifini amashyi we! Ee! Ee! Ee! Amashyi, amashyi amashyî bayahaye Perezida MUGENZI Yusitini, Perezida wa PL, uhagarariye PADER yarî ahari na-,ve bamuhaye amashyi, uhagarariye PARERWA ha we yari ahari bamuhamashyi, noneho abagize ko... Komite nyobozi ya MRND ha ho bose baravuga bati "muze mure mur iyo myanyaho mwicaye muze mwiyerekane" ha bo biyerekanye, abahagarariye poli... Komite nyobozi ya MRND bose biyerekanye, abaministre bose ho mu ishyaka MRND bos na bo bagiye biyereka abaturage ubu mu kanya gashize, biyereka abaturage ha bo bose barababona (arasetse) ntiba.., icyansekeje harî tmatkecuru nawe wamanutse, umukecum rwose hum bahita banosha bati buriya ni Interahamwe bati ni umukecuru w Interahamwe, bati ni umukecuru w Interahamwe wo mu Muhîma, hum! Hano mu Muhima mu kanya ninsubirayo ndabaza izina rye neza mbabwire uko yitwa. Ni uwo lin Muhima yamanutse nawe bamuh amashyi! Ni umukecuru ushaje rwose ushaje ariko uvuga ngo HABYARIMANA ramba hum! Ahadepite bose ha MRND bari hano i Kigali haa baba baie bose babew.kanye, bail noneho ha Perefe wa Kigali il Kigali PVI~ Kigali y umujyi a...ri ha vve dukesha aya Cassette RTLM /1/94 trans r~ par M.R

20 19 KOq 6866 ç wzhoro dufite muri uyu mujyi kuko ail we ni ",ve patron wacu muri uyu mujyi ha vve bamwerekanye (arakoroye) bati hari na Superefe uhagaradye Perefe wa Kigali-Ngali KARERA Faranswa na mumurebe hum ha we bamwerekanye. Noneho rero mvuyeyo adko bimeze, ariko kandibirori ni byos, ibirori ni byose abantu bameze neza nk uko nabibabwiye nta ntugunda nta kintu kibi gihad, oo ahubwo mwebwe muldri inaddra bamwe mu... mutt~e i Kigali ne... ha Kigali hadya mu nkengero z umugi abafite ingufu, abatite mbesi navuga si bafite agaceri ka tagisi? Abafite ukuntu bagerayo muge kwirebera ibirori by ubuntu, ibirori by ubuntu murebe ukuntu MRND ihagaze ihagaze bwumat ihaga~ ihaga~ nezabavuga ngo iki, jye navuze nti ziriya Nkotanyi zose ziri muri CND iyo baziha umhusa nazo zikajya kwirebera ukuntu bimeze i Nyamirambo noneho bamza, batuza batuza bakavuga batiki gihugu turimo gifite abategetsi gifite abayobozi gifite uko kimeze uko cyigenga, ahaa ~e tula~ lojko bakirinm bacyinjiyemo kuzagisohokamo rero.., l Gushoza intambara byose si ukurasa rimwe si abanm bakiruka? Ariko kugira ngo uzarangize iyo ntambara uzavuge uti nimugaruke twumvikane mugaruke mutuze byakurushya. Ee uzanywe igikoma gishushye cyangwa uzanywe igikoma gikonje nyuma uzambwire aho bitandukaniye. Ni ho intambara itandukaniye rero mu kuyishoza no kuyirangiza. Ni ukunywa igishushye nyuma ukazifimi igikonje ha cyo ukakibura. Ngeze rero kuri Stade nsanga had za tracts had abantu nyine ba... had za tracts ariko had ako aa nshoboye (arimyoje) si ugusl~utadko l~i ~o nimkank~y...nl~ mb~mere n~we mwiyumvke: ail "Banyarwanda igihugu kimgarijwe, Banyarwanda muramenye ntimugwe mutego twibukiranye kuva muri mirongo itanu n icyenda igihugu cyacu cyiyeemeje k~... kwe...kuraho kwikuraho umutwaro uremereye w ingoma ya cyami icyo icyo gihe ubwo rubanda mguii irahagarul~., icyo gihe nyine rubanda rugufi ~ yirukana Lunad n Umwami. Ibyahtfikiyeho murabizi ni ibitero byo muri mirongo itandatu, itandatu na rimwe, itandam na gatatu, itandatu na gatanu, itandatu n indwi adko byose biba impfabusa. Nyuma y imyaka mîrongo itatu barongeye barisuganya babifashijwemo ha MUSEVENL P rezida wa Yuganda, cyakora kugira ngo babone icyo babwiramahanga ~ ko bazamye demokarasi mu Rwanda, ko bashaka kukuraho[sic] ingoma y igitugu no gutahura impunzi. Icyo gihe abaturage babi.., babitahura vuba, babitahura vuba hein bafatanya n ingabo zabo barabarwanya barabatsinda mu mambara yabereye mu Mutara. Ntibyatinze Cassette RTLM---"- -"- ~9.~ 14/1/94 transeei~ par M.R

21 20 ~01 6ô6 7 0 ~~shyaka ~ aravutse maze barisuganya bayaseseramo noneho barongera bararwana. Ubu bimaze kugaragara ko TWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusitini yabakoreraga mu mashyaka yose kuko ari we wayoboraga hum Impuzamashyaka yi... yitaga FDC. Muribuka ubugambanyi bw i Bumseli, ubugambanyi bw i Dar-es-salaam n i Bujumbura. Ibyo bintu byalmruye intambara imshaho kwihuta cyakora ingabo z u Rwanda zihashinga ibirindiro zirananirana~ Inkotanyi zemera imishyikirano. Icyagaragaye ni uko zageze mu ~ ~ana zigasaba ibinm byose zîshaka zikabihabwa kugira ngo amahoro aboneke. Ntawabura ha none kuvuga ko habaye ubushishozi buke ku ruhande rwa Leta y u Rwanda. t~u rero noneho ikigaragara ni uko nyuma y imishyikirano Ubutegetsi bwananiwe gufata n intwaro hum Inkotanyi zirashaka kubufata zifashîshije uburiganya n ubudemagoji. Zirashaka gukomatanya ubutegetsi bwose bwo mu Nteko ishinga amategeko, ubwo mu Nama ya Guverinoma n ubw Ubucamanza. Aho hantu rero harakomeye muhitondere kuko Ubutegetsi, mbisubiremo busa n ubwo ku ngoma ya cyami. Bahawe Ministeri y Ubutegetsi bw igihugtt, bahawe Gendarmene none barashaka Ministeri y Ubucamanza ngo bice bakize! Muri ubwo buryo rero bifashishije TWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusitini ha KAVARUGANDA ha bamwe mu bayobozi b ishyaka PSD. Ndetse TWAGIRAMUNGU arashaka kongeraho ministeri y Amashuri abanza n ayîsumbuye bakongeraho na ~~lîsteri y lmari ifitwe na PSD. Naho KAVARUGANDA icyo ashaka ni ugufasha Inkotanyi mu guhirika ubutegetsi yifashishije amategeko. Ka... akagambane KAVARUGANDA hum! Ngo karaturuka ngo ku bifaranga bamuhaye ndetse bakanamwizera ko ari we uzayobora Urukiko rw lkirenga. Iyo migambi irimo ubutiriganya bwinshi, imaze gutahurwa rero ha benshi mu bayoboke b amashyaka n ubwo ntako Abayobozi batagize ngo bibahi.., ngo babibahishe. Iyo mibare yose ni yo ituma Inkotanyi zanga kurah/_ra zitabonye mu Nteko i~ amategeko abadepite ha NDASINGWA barangwa ahanini hum no kwirobanuramo ubwoko bumwe gusa. Ni yo ituma zangabadepite batanzwe mu nzira zemewe n amategeko bahawe Perezida w ishya Bwana MUGENZI Yusitini, him zikabohora.., zikabahora ko... zikabahora ko ngo ad Abahutu. Nîyo ituma TWAGIRAMUNGU yang abaministri ahawe n ishyaka PL akitoranyirîzamo Mmisteri y Ubucamanza akayitanga akufikije ubwoko. Ni yo ituma TWAGIRAMUNGU yanga abaministre ahawe n ishyaka MR... MDR, MDR agahitamo uwo yihera Casse~ RIZM /104 transcrlte par M.R - "

22 21 l( Ministeri y Amashuri abanza n Ayisumbuye. Iyo mibare niyo ituma ishyaka PSD ubu ryiyemeje kugendera mu kwaha kw Inkotanyi yanga kurahira no k~njira mu Nteko ishinga amategeko. Ildbazo rero kixi hehe? Ikibaz~ Abanyarwanda bose bibaza muriki gihe ni iki ngiki. Twemerere Inkotanyi ubutegetsi zit~hoboye gufata n imwaro kuva mu my~a mirongo itatu hum, bwose tulmzegtaifir hum? UhRegetsi bwose tubuzegurirîre uko bumeze binyuze mu macenga ya politike? Twemere ibyabaye i Bumndi bigere ino mu Rwanda? Turakeka ko nta Munyarwanda n umwe wabyena~ Abanyarwanda twese tugomba guhagumka tugakoresha ingufu zacu z, ose hum tukabu... tukaburwanya tutizigamye hakiri kare kandi ubu biroroshye kuko Abanyarwanda bo mu mashyaka yose hum kabone n abo muri PSD bamaze kubona neza uko ikibaz~ giteye, uko ikîbazo giteye. Muri iki gihe amashyaka yose aravuga nnnwe kuko intambara mrwana ari imwe, ail ukurwanira ubusugire bwa Repubulika. Mu minsiri imbere muhamagariwe mwese imyigaragambyo ha za mitingi kugira ngo dukome imbere abanm [,ose bifuza guhungabanya Repubulika n ababa bifuza bose kubifashamo... kubibafashamo kandi dusanzwe dutsinda bahari, dusanzwe dutsinda bahari! lkibazo rero uko kigomba gukemurwa si kwa Perezida wa Repubulika, si kwa Agata UWINGIRIMANA, si kwa KAVARUNGANDA, si kwa TWAGIRAMUNGU cyanga muri MINUAR ha Loni ikibazo kizakemurwa muba.., kizakemurirwa baturage bibumbiye hamwe, îhuriro rirakomeye i...huriro rirakomeye cyane rirasaba umusanzu wa bose nko hambere, nko hambere. Harakabaho u Rwanda, harakabaho Repubulika, harakabaho Abanyarwanda, ababisinye rwose ni abantu benshi basinye, nabyise tract ariko tract iyo isinye ntabwo iba ikiri tract lmbera ko iba ifite ba nyirayo. Dufite saa tanu n iminota cumi n ine hano i Kigali, reka dukubiteho umtu~a nyamke nzane ibyo HABYARIMANA... HABYARIMANA Yohanî amaze kuvuga nyuma mwumve nyine uko bimeze ambiance yo kuri Stade Régional i Nyamirambo. Mukomere. Tukagenda mgaruka, mgenda tugamka, tugenda tugaruka na... John, Yohani me... NTEZIMANA na,ve aka...sigara hano acu.., abagezaho umuzika ariko kandi amagambo yabaye menshi kuri Stade, HABYARIMANA Jean hum ni we nyine nk uko nababwiye wafunguye, urebye ni we wafunguye _ Cas~tte RTLM /1/94 tm~crlte par M.B.

23 22 K ijambo rya mbere bamaze kwerekanabashyitsi bamaze kwerekanabo abantu [sic] bose bahaje, berekanye benshi ahubwo no mu kanya hari n abandi baie mu gihe nari naje hano, haje Secrétaire général oya, Secrétaire général wa... NZOEORERA Joseph yafashe ijambo ahubwo haie na... n u... n intumwa ya... ya Parti démocrate ha we bamaze kwerekana mu kanyakaba yitwa NEMEYE na we baramwerekanye rwose huu amash~ ashyigikiye MRND ni menshi! Ni menshi, ni menshi cyane aragwiriye amashyaka yose arahari ariko kandi HABYAR, IMANA Jean yiyamye politike yo kugendera magi; yo kugendera magi. Iyo ugendeye ku magi rero "on ne peut pas faire d omelette sans casser les oeufs" hein! Kugira ngo urye umuleti burya umanza warnena amagif Abagendera hejuru y amagi rem burya bamenye ko mbere ha mbere yameneka umuleti tukazawurya nyuma! Ubwo nyine bazi ko biseye hein! (Arasetse) politike yo kugendera magi rero iyo ngiyo yarayiyamyi hum! Kandi ail "MRND mabwo itinya FPR, ntabwo iyîtinya rwose. Umuti baravuze ngo bavugutiye Amsha ngo MgND izawunywe, bati "nyamara" uwo ari HABYARIMANA Jean,...ri "nyamara uwo muti ndumva" hein "ndumva FPR ail yo itangiye kuwunywera hano i Kigali, yashaka ikawunywa, ikawunywa kusira ngo amashyaka yose noneho agombe kujya muri Guverinoma". Kubera ko amashyaka yose yajya muri OEverinoma, hum FPR irabizi nezaho frite umutego yiteze irahazi natwe turahazi ariko abantu twese tureba tugashishoza ko bize iniverisite tukaziga, barabona ko aho umutego uri umuntu atahazi? Uwo mutego rero ahaa.., ushibukane nyirawo hum yaba.., ushibukane aba.., abawuteze barabizi bavuye Arusha batabizi se hum? Bavuye i Kinihira batawureba? Bageze i Kigali se batabizi? Nibemere rero rubanda nyamwinshi, rubanda bategeke. Niianga amatora mzayashyiraho mpaka mpakamatora abaye. Nibagira amafaranga ibifaranga ibifaranga za miliyari bazaziduhe tuzazirya, bazaduhe tuzayarya, tuzarya amafaranga ariko dutore nidutora rero bazamenye ko ail ukuwunywa none se? Ahaa bazawunywa! Uu... FPg ha yo igomba kuwunywa ko ariko ari bo bawuvuguse hum hari umugabo wigeze kubabwira ati "reka tuwuvugute" nyamara nabonye kuri stade bamuha amashyi (arasetse) nabonye kuri stade bamuha hoe.., nyamara umuntu yak,~~wira akibwiriza hum? Yee barangize iyo dose rero, hum? Iyo dose rero bageneye MRND na bo nibayirangize noneho Guverinoma ijyeho nk uko Perezida wa Repubulika ati "ku wa kane ni wo munsi wa nyuma yewe no ku ",va kane ni kure n ejo bashatse barah/ra, babishake ariko bikiri bwangu hum kandi muriki gihugu tumaze imyaka itatu irenga turi Cassette RTLM /1/94 tramoqte pu M.B.

24 mu ntambara tuzi uko twifashe tuzi uko umutima wac ukomeye nta kiduhihibikanya nta cyo ma kidut~bikanya n abagiye muri bulende baremeye barapfa barapfusha barahamba uu ee[ Iyo umuntu umaze kumuvanamo ubwobarakureba agaseka! None se! Dufite ingabo kandi barazizi si /nzirabwoba se hum? N abaturage ubu ngubu bibereye Inzirabwoba. None se ko... bajye kuri stade nababwiye nti ha Kadogo bose bajye kuri stade barebe abo bita ngo Interahamwe uyu munsi barahari bajye kubareba barebe abo basore birabasetsa, nibajyayo birabasetsa cyangwa biratera ubwoba. Bagende babarebe ulm Interahmnwe zaserutse rwose z/ri lmri stade bagende babarebe noneho bajye bavuga bati "bariya bahungu tuzumvikana. Ee babimenye ko bazumvikana ni Abanyarwanda ha bo ni Abanyarwanda, bamenye ko bazumvikana. Yee, ma kindi kibazo gihafi. Itorero rya Biryogo rero mu kanya rya.., ryacishijeho animasiyo yabo itagira uko isa, yewe! N uzi ururimi rw igiswayiri yiyumv/ye, yiyumviye uimntu byagenze, abarwanashyaka MRND bumva indimi zose. Secrétaire national NZIRORERA Joseph yaîashe ijambo ese nk uko amagambo yagiye ee acicikana aho bigeze reka mbumvishe mwumve mbese ambiance yo kuri stade. HAB YARIMA Jean, Prdside~ du MRND Kigali-V dle : Bwana Perezida w ishyaka ryacu, barwanashyaka bose mwese muri hano, murareba namwe murirebera Prefegitura y Umujyi wa Kigali mu ishyaka MRND rihagaze neza cyane. (Applaudissement et tambourinement). MRND muri Prefegitura y Umujyi wa Kigaligizwe n Abahutu b " Jbi...bangange " (Applaudissernent et tambourinement). MRND muri Prefegitura y Umujyi wa Kigali igizwe n Abatutsi badatinya kwamagana ibikorwa b... by ubwicanyi n ibindi bikorwa bibi by hïkotanyi (Applaudissement et tamlxsmement). Prefeg/tura y Umujyi wa Kigali, MRND irimwo Abatwa badatinya kuvuga ibibazo byabo kandi badatinya gusangira n Abahutu n Abatutsi bo muri Kigali (Applaudissement et tambourinement). MRND muri PVK igizwe n abanyamahanga babonye ubwenegihugu bakaraba ari Abanyarwanda (Applaudissement et tambourinement). MRND muri Prefegitura y Umujyi wa Kigalifite abasempatiza benshi cyane abanyamahanga (Applaudissement et tambourinement). b Ca»sotte RTLM /1/94 tr~ par M.B ~

25 24 Bwana Perezida wa MRND, MRND muri Prefegitura y Umujyi wa Kigalifite Interahamwe, ifite Inyangarnugayo, ifite n abarwanashyaka benshi cyane bihe.., bitangiye ishyaka (Applaudissement et tamboufinefn~). MRND mufi Prefe~tura y Umujyi wa Kigalibana n andi mashyaka atari ukuvuga yuko ivuga rumwe n ayo mashyaka ariko har icyo ihuriye kuri ayo.., ihuriyeho n ayo mashyaka ni ukubaka igihugu. MRND murî Prefegitura y Umujyi wa Kigali ikaba ishobora no kuzabana n Inkotanyi ad uko ziretse ibitekerezo byo gutegekesha iki gihugu imbunda, ari uko ziretse amacenga yazo zikemera tukabana (Applaudissement et tambourinement). Aho rero barwanashyaka n abandi batuzindukiye, muri Prefe8itura y Umujyi wa Kigali tukaba twamagana politike y ububeshyi, politike yo kwivuguruza uu igihe c,/ose ha politike yo kugendera ku masi (Applaudissement et tambourinement). Prefegitura y Umujyi wa Kigali MRND, barwanashyaka ntabwo itinya FPR ntabwo itinya Inkotanyi (Applaudissement et tambourinement). Impamvu ni izi: ni uko tuzi ko iyi bombori bombori y amacenga ari mu mashyaka iri muri FPR iterwa ha wa muti bavugufiye MRND bawuvugutira Harusha (Applaudissement et tamboufinement). Bawuvugutiye MRND itangira kuwunywaho noneho byabaye ngombwa ko byanze bikunze n andi mash~ agomba kujya muri iyo Guvefinoma igomba kunywa kuri uwo muti (Applaudissement et tambourinement). Ubwo rero barwanashyaka, FPR ikiri ku Mulindi yari itaramenya uwo muti icyo ari cyo none imaze kugera hano imaze gusogongeraho yumva ubusharire... (Applaudissement et tambourinement) (silence). Fin de la cassette. Casze~ RTI~ /1/94 ff~crite par M.B.